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“Copyright 2008 Julia Lichty. This item is not authorized for posting on Steam, except under the Steam account named theghostfire.”

Edit: Wallpapers are now available for both the Red and Blu Teams!

Dear god, I don't think I want to open this file up again for at least a month. Each individual character was done so I could print them at 11x14 inches, so when combined into one, the file bloated to over half a gigabyte! I started this over a month and a half ago, and it's eaten up an unfair amount of time. As much as I enjoyed creating this bit of Team Fortress 2 cheesecake, I can't wait to do something in a more normal (for me) vein.

Many of the pieces from this gallery are available as prints on my website at ghostfire.net or specifically at the ghostfire market.
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Lyrically-Sadistic Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist

1) "Prime" example. Not primal. Sieg heil, sieg heil, the diction nazi is here. And picking on people's English and level of artwork is something you have every reason to expect if you get up on your high horse about things on the internet; while it may be immature feel the need to correct the mistakes of someone you never met, it is far less mature to post the first thing that enters your head and neglect to proofread it (additionally giving yourself time to emotionally detach from you statement and analyze it like a logical human being.)

And let's not forget that "devalidate" is not a word. "Invalidate" on the other hand is the one I think you were looking for, although you're wrong that my argument is invalidated just because you don't understand what advertising is.

2) Ghostfire is advertising and marketing her her artistic tallents and profile with this artwork. Advertising has very little to do with money and a lot to do with gaining people's attention (although the end often IS to obtain their money.) One of the most (if not THE most) effective techniques in getting the attention of a male audience is the presentation of the female figure in asthetically pleasing proportions. And as you yourself said, it's frequently women themselves who are the authors and executors of this approach. So maybe some individuals feel down on themselves and decide to stop trying at life because the standard is impossible. Cue the carton of ice cream. But what they need to do is find a proactive way of dealing with their own expectations instead of telling the world to handicap itself for them. It won't, and they'll just get more and more frustrated as it keeps knocking them down.

And there is an indisputable difference between drawing pretty girls because you want to and enjoy drawing them and drawing pretty girls because of your lack of skill. By the logic you utilize on that front, `yuumei should never draw anime and always be drawing fugly monsters with her incredible skills. Some of us can draw anything, but we choose to draw what's beautiful because we WANT to.

3) Here's the bottom line: you didn't even compliment the artist on the amount of time and effort she poured into drawing this, did you? Nor did you bother to acknowledge the cleanness of the image, the color pallete, the lighting and shading, the details or the texture! You just latched onto the one area you felt you had a right to criticize - the subject matter - and went to town on it. Do you have the slightest idea how rude and disrespectful that is? Maybe if you have given Julia the credit she's due for the many strengths of the artwork before voicing your concern, your opinion would seem a little more valid.

But no, you just had to go and vomit your personal insecurities and social justice bullshit right here in front of the entire world. That's inexcusible, and it makes you look like someone with a skull thickness comparable to the La Couple dome.

PS: You are one of the more articulate individuals I've met here.

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HijackedTheTARDIS Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
1) I could pick out every grammatical error in your previous argument and this one, but I choose not to fall back on classic defense mechanisms because I have plenty of other, more interesting things to choose from, so I will only point out the funniest one.

"emotionally detatch yourself like a human being"

2) You completely ignored the fact that I just said most of the people who see this are probably female. What I meant when I said women are the ones who often make this is that they probably just think "ooh, pretty art" and the bullshit just washes over their heads, because it's just what's expected now to have impossible standards in media. It never enters anybody's heads that it's possible to have imperfect characters, either because of laziness or default lack in presence of mind.

Please don't put words in people's mouths, it's basically manipulating things to make yourself look bigger/make the person look smaller, and it backfires as soon as the person corrects you, eg: I never said she should be drawing exclusively ugly things and never draw pretty things. What I meant was this person is drawing exclusively aesthetically pleasing people, and in the end if you stripped down their clothing/hair/makeup they all end up looking very similar and it feels like a waste. The image it projects is this: there are no ugly barbie dolls because children won't play with them. If there are no ugly characters in your portfolio, it implies you're still a child and you still don't want to play with them.

3) Plenty of other people raved about all the time/effort/etc. I didn't see the point in sugar coating something that would cause (and has caused) a shitstorm, regardless of whether I actually complimented the artist or not, and if she was prepared to put it out here on the web I'm sure she has enough self esteem as an artist to not start slitting her wrists if one person doesn't like it. And for the record, SJWs annoy the hell out of me. I have no personal insecurities, I'm just sick of being constantly bombarded with the same perfect bullshit. It just so happened that this picture was the straw that broke the camel's back. You can't deny it's had a massive impact; eating disorders weren't even taken seriously until about 1990, and now they're a huge problem affecting many, many people. That's just the facts, I'm afraid.

You need to learn to read between the lines rather than just think you have somebody down and then go and accuse them of all sorts.
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Lyrically-Sadistic Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*Make that two errors. I miss spellcheck too. Anywho, keeping score is inadvisable.
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Lyrically-Sadistic Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Before we go any further, let's disspell your faulty assertion that Julia has no ugly characters in her portfolio with this fav.me/d5hju79 this fav.me/d4cb1e7 this fav.me/d1jlz1k and this fav.me/d42f9kg. There's no lack of ability or fear of extra effort in trying to draw diverse facial structures and body types. She draws skeletons. She draws fat ghouls. She draws aged vampires. And what's more, she does all of them with more realism than anything you have ever done. YOU are left without a leg upon which to stand (although the fact that you entirely miss the point of cheesecake and can't deal leaves it up to debate as to whether you had a leg to stand on at the start.) Now, for the bleeding stumps you're still using to crawl around:

 

1) In my entire conversation with you, I made a grand total of one grammatical error, but it wasn't even the thing you picked out and tried to laugh at; this, which is neither a grammatical error nor a logical error, is merely you childishly pulling words out of context and twisting them in a rediculous and faulty "no u" counter. I should rephrase the final sentiment of my previous comment: you DO have a skull thickness comparable to the La Couple missle bunker. It no longer just looks like it. For fuck sake don't just think twice before you reply, think six, seven or eight times, because your failure to do so thus far has revealed you to be a total moron. And stop making it even worse by pretending to take a high road that doesn't exist.

 

2) The bullshit washes over their heads because it IS bullshit. You need to get that through your La Couple skull, okay? YOU'RE the only one who can't digest cheesecake and whipped out your bare assertion of who will or will not see this AND who will or will not be affected by it negatively. You don't know shit. You have nothing to base your argument on but your own empty, inaccurate perception.

 

3) "Plenty of other people raved about all the time/effort/etc" does not excuse your shit. There IS no excuse. ~Popinsnow said the same thing you did and nobody has a problem with her. Being fair and ballanced in your criticism is not the same as sugarcoating, and you CAN state the truth firmly and honestly without being a gigantic fuckhead about it, the way I tried initially with my point about your artistic skill. But you just ripped on the artwork like an ignorant, insecure fuck. Consequently, you awarded yourself no points.

 

Get off the internet or send *ghostfire an apology. Doing both is preferable.

 

By the way, "I have no insecurities" is complete gorillashit. Everyone has insecurities. And you DID display yours here, as transparently as a factory-fresh window pane, by showing how "fucking offended" you were that people like to idealize shit for fun, sealing it with your comment to ~animpostertookmyname about how Bratz and other shows like it made you hate yourself for most of your adolescence. Lawyered. You have nowhere to hide.

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cthellis Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013
Grip. Get one.
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Popinsnow Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
Why did you have to change their looks so much? I really don't understand why all of them practically have double D's, and really the Medic's and the Spy's clothing really seems inconvenient for battle due to them both wearing heels and having long dresses that could catch. And i don't remember the Medic having a needle in the game ether.
It has a lovely art style but i'm just incredibly disappointed by how unidealistic and sexuality all the characters seem to be, especially when compared to the originals..
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sevile Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Pyro is so sexy ;___;
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play-freebird Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
I feel like the pyro should have been lampshaded, and just used the original pyro model.
Still quite cool, though.
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parkourdude Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I WANNA BE THE GIRL 3 FROM THE RIGHT.

youknow. ifiwasagirl.
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Dabear117 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
HELLLLLOOOOO Nurse
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BoltyWolf Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Engineer is credit to team!
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fuzzybomb1 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012
so sexy
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fuzzybomb1 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012
The spy especially XD
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AnimationGuy Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012
... YES
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XBad-KittyX Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2012
AMAZING!
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xXFear-ChanXx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THIS.

Is nearly exactly what I imagined for the Fem!Fortress.
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AgentTasmania Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012
9 classes, but still no class.
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IslandxInxThexSun Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly.
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N0VAXIS Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconfblikeplz:
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AnnoyingScout Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Looks like a bitch fight. :D
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Zeldagirl001 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i musst say, the Dewoman looks pretty awesome :3
but i love the Sniper <3
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SomeKindaSpy Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012
Engie all the way.
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restlessnocturne Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
A friend of mine and I were inspired by this fantastic piece of artwork and we cosplayed your interpretations of the Scout and Medic at this past Otakon.

I'll have more photos from the shoot up this week, but here's a link to the first photo posted of my Medic!
[link]

More will be going up soon!
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superdoomwaffle Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2012
select a class..? you mean select a clASS
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Anaspy Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Spy :)
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Ph33rbenkthankslol Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012  Student General Artist
I added this (and another of your pictures) to my group. I would be honored to feature this
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Secret-Agent-Rabbit Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Student General Artist
I choose high class.
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IriquoisP Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
I say YES! YES!
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ShotglassAnHero Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012
Scout is uber hot! :3
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SteamHead1880 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love the engineer
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zeventymillion Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
never played tf2, want to kinda, this would be an awesome pc mod if someone were to do so even tho i don't play pc
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NightlordKrusnik Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Rule 34 FTW
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AlexIsMehNme Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Gotta love the cute, loving, adorable, pink-haired scout!
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manofmanynames4 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011
I like the Scout's hair color corresponds with her team, that was a nice touch.
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skiman84 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2011
the scout and pyro look the best to me :D they are also my favorite class to use in the game. ^_^
The poses for all the characters are great though.
Your hard work paid off. it looks great. 1/2 a gig amazing.
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Toram159 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011   General Artist
I like the pyro the best
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Mane-Shaker Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
dat pyro!
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sirorion Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011
Oh, that's cool, I guess.
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bigwhitehound Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2011
Nice I like the Medic (what's she wearing under that coat?) and the Sniper ( my favorite class).
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skynet1248 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2011
Nice, especially scout and medic ^^
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NemoRAK Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Student
really nice designs
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Bjornieman Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
There it is. I had to TinEye a bit containing only the Spy, then TinEye the bit containing Medic, Spy and Soldier, and finally get your DeviantArt page address from the picture hosted elsewhere. Why is nothing ever simple in this world?!
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StrykZone Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Dammit, I'm stuck between the Demo and Pyro....why can't I have both! uh, ah...I mean uh...BE both...ha ha ha....<.< >.>
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kay-spicer Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lololololol Sniper looks like me. But size FUCKIN' zero.
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Sporkis70920 Featured By Owner May 9, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i'm tottally the Medic.

awesome job dude!
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OverLordRay Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011
Clever................


meheheheheh.........


(throws a pebble at the heavy)........ it wasn't me.....(throws one of his troops in front of him)
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Rxven Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nice work :D i would like that valve make some female characters in TF2
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Spectraljump Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2011
There are a couple of female characters you can install: [link] :)
But they're mods so they'd only be visible for you, not the rest of the players, obviously.
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pancake-Torturer Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011
Nice but why are they all freaking TIT-MONSTERS?!
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darakronos Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010
fav classes in TF2
1.Sniper
2.Spy
3.Scout
sexiest classes in this
1.Spy
2.medic
3.sniper
SO FRICKING SEXY
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